Comments on: The Reality of Ghosts: A Possible Biblical Explanation http://drywind.net/blog/ghosts/the-reality-of-ghosts-a-possible-biblical-explanation/722/ Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:48:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Wrangler http://drywind.net/blog/ghosts/the-reality-of-ghosts-a-possible-biblical-explanation/722/comment-page-1/#comment-26638 Wrangler Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:32:53 +0000 http://drywind.net/blog/?p=722#comment-26638 I would like to add that the reference to "watchers" is also found in scripture. See Dan. 4:13, 17, and 23. I would correct you on your closing remark in two areas. You said, "As a consequence, the only way that Job could experience a spirit passing by his face causing the hair of his flesh to bristle up (Job 4:15) was if it were a soulless dead Nephilim (Rephaim) wandering the earth in a ghostly body." First, It wasn't Job who experienced a spirit passing by his face, it was Eliphaz. Second, the other possible explanation comes from 1 Kings 22:19-22, "... I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him. And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying sprit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so." Now, if this spirit was one of the host of heaven then it would be either an angel (on the right hand of God), or a demon (on the left hand of God). But, the text doesn't refer to this spirit as one of the host of heaven. Some might think that it is implied by the context, but scripture discriminates between a holy one, a watcher (Dan.4:13), the sons of God (Job 1:6), cherubim (Ezekiel 10:1-22), seraphim (Isaiah 6:1), and even "spirits". 1Samuel 18:10, "And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand." See also 1Samuel 16:14, 19:9. I don't disagree with anything else you said. I just wanted to point out that a "spirit" is not necessarily one of the dead Nephilim, Anakim, or Rephaim, although such a distinction may be difficult to discern from a paranormal event. I would like to add that the reference to “watchers” is also found in scripture. See Dan. 4:13, 17, and 23.

I would correct you on your closing remark in two areas. You said, “As a consequence, the only way that Job could experience a spirit passing by his face causing the hair of his flesh to bristle up (Job 4:15) was if it were a soulless dead Nephilim (Rephaim) wandering the earth in a ghostly body.”

First, It wasn’t Job who experienced a spirit passing by his face, it was Eliphaz.

Second, the other possible explanation comes from 1 Kings 22:19-22, “… I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him. And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying sprit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.”

Now, if this spirit was one of the host of heaven then it would be either an angel (on the right hand of God), or a demon (on the left hand of God). But, the text doesn’t refer to this spirit as one of the host of heaven. Some might think that it is implied by the context, but scripture discriminates between a holy one, a watcher (Dan.4:13), the sons of God (Job 1:6), cherubim (Ezekiel 10:1-22), seraphim (Isaiah 6:1), and even “spirits”.

1Samuel 18:10, “And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul’s hand.” See also 1Samuel 16:14, 19:9.

I don’t disagree with anything else you said. I just wanted to point out that a “spirit” is not necessarily one of the dead Nephilim, Anakim, or Rephaim, although such a distinction may be difficult to discern from a paranormal event.

]]> By: Peta Slaney http://drywind.net/blog/ghosts/the-reality-of-ghosts-a-possible-biblical-explanation/722/comment-page-1/#comment-1228 Peta Slaney Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:32:27 +0000 http://drywind.net/blog/?p=722#comment-1228 About and I quote..."“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12: 2). “The dead will live. Your corpses will rise and the earth will give birth to departed spirits” (Isaiah 26:19).end quote... I do not deny this, but isn't it true that as human beings, we need time...God created time for us.... He does not need it....so then...couldn't it be that... as soon as the body dies....NO MORE TIME needed, so as soon as you die immediately you are either in heaven or in hell...as there is NO TIME anyway? So, when you are buried,dust to dust...you rise to go to....? Well the scriptures say that the spirit returns to God.... About and I quote…”“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12: 2).

“The dead will live. Your corpses will rise and the earth will give birth to departed spirits” (Isaiah 26:19).end quote…

I do not deny this, but isn’t it true that as human beings, we need time…God created time for us….
He does not need it….so then…couldn’t it be that…
as soon as the body dies….NO MORE TIME needed, so as soon as you die immediately you are either in heaven or in hell…as there is NO TIME anyway? So, when you are buried,dust to dust…you rise to go to….? Well the scriptures say that the spirit returns to God….

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